ATI (Google) - Darren / Nick (Advisor Client)

Hey Darren.

Hey Nick, how are you?

I think I just saw your email too. I didn't know if you still wanted some meat, but I thought I might as well check.

I just.

So happened I literally walked in the door.

So I didn't hurt from you so I thought I'd jump on as well.

Yeah.

What do you think? What do you think of most.

You was good. Seemed like he kind of knew what he's talking about and I think that is helpful because I think.

It's, I think it will help us all to be on the same page even. He's helping us get this data. He kind of knows the game plan.

And he understands kind of how we're thinking about doing things. It will be helpful.

Yeah.

Obviously know it's a good bit about which could be a double-edged sword I suppose.

He rides again quick updates and logos were a real pain in the ass but I got all the Colorado listings out of the way.

I'm now reviewing Nick's work and making a task list.

For him on some things.

That would help. I imagine.

I imagine work didn't take as long as it might look. I took four to five hours, 45 hour big break in between working right now.

Update the tags and recheck everything else once my tool tool limit is reset in about three hours.

Could you be tonight unless I find another? I'm just reading his message. Like I said, I just got back in.

So yeah, he must be using free credits.

Too.

Got it. Okay.

Well I think I sent you guys both after that call yesterday I gave that ability to do those few things that we wanted. So I think that hopefully that helped him a little bit.

If you go to any task now, you can put an attachment, you can put notes, you can put.

His own name, I think wasn't there.

So I think that stuff, I don't see any more tasks from him unless this is one, needs to be able to assign tasks in multiple people.

That has to have been one he put together.

He didn't see himself.

Okay, that's not working.

Oh there we go. Okay, what sign tasks are multiple people? When does he want to do that?

That's the question again. What was that?

Oh, that's his task to me, I guess, is need to be able to sign task to multiple people. Does that mean he's a tiny task to you and me?

Good question.

That one's new to me too. And you didn't put anything in his comments about it.

When would.

Multiple people need to be tasked?

So usually, I don't know if that's a normal thing because isn't that confusing who's doing it?

Maybe we can wait until we about that.

Yeah, I would hold off on that one until I have a conversation with you.

Okay.

So if he said he did Colorado, let's see.

Here's the little logos.

I do think there is. I need to explore it, but there's probably a way to.

Use our automation to do the logo part if that's if that.

S, it looks like he must have uploaded one for each, which is great.

There might be a faster way to do that.

Yeah, that's what I would hope for because I'd hate to burn money on just logos.

Yeah, so maybe one of you.

But he said he had to rework him for some reason.

Well, they're all the square. So like some of them.

Didn't even look right.

But.

Yeah, that one doesn't look.

Like this brand energy. What is this?

Ranch safely.

So what is logo? This one, this brand.

No, it'll be the brand safe way. But what we've got, he noted in there is we have brand Safeway and then we have brand energy services. And I'm going to bet energy solutions.

There you go.

I'm going to bet that one.

S. I mean, I think this was a merger several years ago.

And maybe they are still running independent. Brand ended up being the parent, although it was really in the industry, everyone was.

Wondering how it was all going to come together. We never really knew whether Safeway purchased brand or brand. And these are the two largest in the country in the world, quite frankly.

They've got locations throughout the world.

So I'm going to assume, and maybe it's one that he marked as I needed to do another, some more reviewing.

But there's going to be those two brand energy solutions and brand Safeway.

As the two.

Primaries.

Let's see if I was just going to do a logo for that one. So let's see, new file.

And I want to say I brought that first one over that had brand safely on it. It looks like it's changed it.

Maybe because obviously it was.

A random energy solutions.

Location.

You know, I'm like a kid in kudos yesterday because, you know, I'd done a couple of them myself. Brand safe ways.

And I went to check his, and my logic was, you know, you're just going to send him, they got something like 60 branches nationwide.

And so my logic was, you know, yeah, we'll just send them to their main website and then you can search by state city. Well, he did it differently.

And actually pulled up the contact information. The link is not just the website, but it pulls up the contact information for that location, which is better.

In my opinion.

Trying to save this logo here and see brand energy.

Go back to this one.

And again, in every instance, brother, I don't know.

I don't know that you, you know, do the best we can from an automated standpoint.

But again, I keep leaning heavy on once these guys get on board with this. They're going to come in and update all this stuff themselves.

So they're, you know, our clients, our suppliers, scaffold suppliers.

Need the ability to update that profile logo as well.

Yeah.

There we go.

There's the logo now.

Yeah, there you go.

So I said just leave the logo just has to be a square to fit in our little template.

So maybe that was what he was.

Trying to do with the other ones.

So.

Looks a lot better. We did that in a couple seconds. He's been working on this.

All, well, four or five hours on just logos.

Yeah.

You're the brand Safeway Solutions, Denver. What's that logo look like?

Just small, it's probably, that probably is what it is.

Though, right?

Yep, I would imagine.

This one doesn't look great.

It should be in this.

One.

Of these logos are not great. Let's see.

This rental.

So there it is.

Anyway, there's this, there's probably a way to automate this. I don't think he should waste his time doing that.

Okay.

But anyway, about it. Yeah, he sounded smart and sounded like he.

Was saying he was going to be an asset. We'll see.

Well.

It could be.

A double-edged sword. You might notice not.

To cause this problems.

Too.

Yeah, that's nice. Try and emphasize to him. I don't know that just like don't.

We're trying to bake this stuff in here. He doesn't need to make some complicated system for himself.

I think it's better for you and me to have all this stuff in here.

Because even if we lose him or we add some people, the more this thing just works without.

Yes.

His own little process.

Which I don't want to take it away from him for making an automation for himself. I think that's good.

But.

No, but I would be curious, hence why I'm demanding that he put.

All his notes and again, I don't even know what to call that stuff.

Rules, whatever he sets up.

In here.

And, you know, I noticed on docs and links that you.

State top of the page. I just didn't pick up on until today.

That save your links to this.

Important.

Documents.

And.

Important.

I guess.

Don't you want the document in case, like you said, in case he leads or something?

Does he own this document?

I mean, he should share it probably with us, which it looks like he has.

I mean, he could take us off of it.

One little workaround at Google things that you can always make a copy of it.

I don't know. I didn't look at what he was doing in here. It looks like he kind of put his own workflow.

That's what I wanted you to be able to take a look at.

Again, if he's got something he's doing on his side that, you know, he's extracting this data via AI, which he is, and I was able to validate that he's also spending time on the social media for each one of these accounts.

You know, just trying to validate it in anywhere and everywhere he can without direct contact.

I wanted you to see.

No and have.

Whatever he's creating on his side. I mean, I sign you up on a contract where anything he creates is ours. I just want to make sure that we keep it.

Yeah.

If anything should happen.

Okay.

Well, yeah, I guess there is a risk. If he makes these docks, he's technically going to withdraw them.

But we could download them.

Or you could ask him just to make you the owner of them.

Okay, so you want to leave it as links in there? Do you want him to actually upload this document in there? So, you know, again, if we go sideways.

We can cut him off administratively.

And he wouldn't have, he wouldn't be able to get to any of this stuff.

He just downloaded them and put them in Google Drive. We do that anyhow.

Yeah.

Well, if you want to make it, I can make another field here. You could upload it. I mean, I think you're not as hip to the, I like Google docs just because I don't have to download them and they're just in my little cloud.

But in this case, you're right.

That's a limitation. So we could have a way to upload the actual file as well.

You know, if he updates this, like if I just put in something here, it's, you know, it's a new copy. It's basically a new change that document.

Uh.

Huh.

That's the advantage of the shared dock is that just you don't have to download it. So if I changed it or you change it or he changed this one doc is always kind of in sync.

Google Drive does the exact same thing.

Yeah.

So.

Your call.

Wasn't on my to-do list today. Just.

I'm not too worried about it yet. We'll see if he is.

I'm eating pretty good, Darren. He seems like he's.

Better than Mo. Seemed like he was.

A smart guy.

And as long as we keep him to do what we want.

It's good to have a lot of ideas. But if he spends his whole time with new ideas, it's not actually doing the data stuff.

Right.

So.

Now, full week into the first.

Well, we have in Colorado now. 35.

Full weekend to 35.

Like how much do you pay him for that?

39.

So he's up in there again. That's all.

In.

Google docs. Keep his time sheet. If you.

Ever.

Look at it, it's there for all of us. So he invested 24 hours.

121 dollars last week.

And five hours today, another 25 bucks today.

That's pretty reasonable.

Really.

For what he's doing.

So now maybe just hopefully the process is pretty.

You know, it doesn't have to change each time. So should it go faster?

I wanted you to hear it, see it.

Some of the stuff he was showing me last week.

I was like, I don't know if Nick's going to be good with that.

Yesterday, if you, you were good with it all, then I don't have with it. Some of it I just don't know.

I don't like the fact that he can just write some kind of script.

And check mark everything in there.

That just didn't seem.

I don't know, didn't seem valid to me.

All it really was he doing is the each he was using Kodaks, which is open AI's chat GPT basically has their own.

Kind of version of clod code.

X.

So they all have similar things where they have the chat GPT, which is just for, you know, human language. You ask a question, it gives you back something, article or some text.

Then they have the way to create code.

So it's slightly different than chat GPT. It's codecs in open AI's case.

And anthropic has clawed for language. It has clot code.

Or software.

They're calling everything clawed. We're open AI is calling it slightly different brand names.

ChatGPT versus codecs.

He was using codecs.

And what he was doing was just using each of them have their own little plugins now where they can control your computer.

So it created a little script, but essentially it was just using his browser instead of me dragging my mouse around. Kodak's was controlling the mouse.

So it was able to.

You know, do what we would do like this. You know, instead of us doing this, boom, boom, boom.

It was just doing this with its own.

Access to the web browser.

Which is pretty amazing.

It's amazing and foreign. It just doesn't seem like he should be able to do that.

Yeah, it's, I mean, it's amazing. Like it's like I.

M using that for some little silly stupid stuff. Like I make every Monday. It was kind of annoying to me because I have to arrange my pickleball court for the prior week. The next week and you have to do it like seven days ahead or it books.

So I just kept forgetting to do it on time.

So now I have a little script that does that seven days ahead. It opens up the web browser. It goes to the park website.

And it goes to the page where you check out and it does the whole thing for me. My credit card's in that.

In there.

So it actually buys my booking.

But it's essentially just navigates a website. So like in that case, it goes to this El Segundo wrecking park website, which is a website that you and I could use instead of going here to book a court and then clicking on.

Wherever it is pickleball. You know, I kind of walked it through this.

And then at, you know, seven days ahead, it goes to this little widget.

And it goes seven days ahead.

It goes to that right time that I want.

It makes sure that it's available. So it's green and it just adds it to cart.

Pretty soon all you're going to know how to do is this. And you're not going to know how to eat. You're not going to know how to walk. You're not.

Going to do anything else.

I mean.

I don't know. I think it would be very scary. Like if I was getting out of school now.

Either of us, like if we were.

Starting our careers.

Like Sabra, like the world is going to be.

Hugely different.

Very soon.

I don't know what repercussions it's going to have.

But.

Like ultimately it can do this. Like this is something I was a pain in the butt for a few months doing. I wasn't doing it on time, so I wasn't getting the course. Now I can just tell this little computer do this for me.

And it's doing what I did on the computer, but it's doing it faster and better.

So I mean, this is just a simple stupid little idea.

But like, you know.

Ultimately this whole website, you know, so just me telling it a few ideas what we wanted to do and it's doing it. Just imagine what it will be a year from now.

It probably will just make my computer as well.

But anyway, I don't know, like if you're just starting to learn a skill set, like what would you be learning right now? Would you be learning just how to talk to the computer? Because the computer is going to be much smarter than we are.

That's what I'm getting at. And I think that's what it'll come down to. You won't have to know.

Grammar.

It'll just take care of it for you. You don't have to know how to spell.

So I don't know.

Good.

Night generation.

All right, well cool.

All right, well, I think we're making progress. I think he's good since I think the mixabra can do her little thing with the filters. I believe this was ready for her.

Nick, you were on those emails where I think I got to work.

And she, she's sick. So I don't kind of explain his last few days of her.

Not showing up.

But I don't, I didn't see where she tried it again, as you suggested by not clicking the.

Upload.

Thing.

I didn't see. I don't think she responded, but yeah, I think that's all she was doing wrong. She didn't have to click this little button anymore.

I can probably just remove that button now.

I think that will work because I, on the few that I tested, it seemed to work.

Is there a way?

Can we test it right now?

Sure.

We have.

Just real quick.

If you're, this is my saying, Rob, with.

Mosun is, is.

I can't wait for a year to get 25 done to get one state done a week.

So.

I may come up with alternate so I can at least cut back to six months.

Unless there's.

Some.

Efficiency gains to, to be had in the way Mosan's doing it.

More son. Dude, what are you paying him out of you or you have a commitment?

Hour.

Ly.

Yeah.

I won't find.

A better rate than that, but I'm more.

Keen on trying to get it done.

And like you, you know, I guess we, you know, we're both saying to the choir when we say this.

But there's too many balls in the air at the same time.

Priorities.

Overlapping.

Yeah, there's a lot. We both have a big appetite.

Hold on here. Let me just try one of these for us.

I don't know if she's done all of any other examples.

But.

I think just redoing the frame and brace one to see if it comes out right.

Would be a huge.

Step.

I think this.

Is a frame embrace.

Here it is.

Okay.

It just boggles my mind even look at this stuff.

Gotta get sick in the stomach.

So for example, well Frame and brace is up. So this is that same post.

So frame brain looks like this.

Oh yeah, so it was the safe way. Oh, yeah, that's the way it's supposed to look.

I think so. I mean this, I don't, I assume this is the.

Yeah.

List I wanted. So she designed this.

Try the OEM safe way OEM.

So OEM.

I think I did this on the last video. So I redid her thing. Maybe go to view page.

Here's OE.

So I think I'm going to get rid of this. I don't know. It's duplicating the title.

But.

Yeah, this seemed to be working. So like if we did like here's an example of not working aluminum frame was probably.

This or an old one.

Yeah. So like see this.

Okay, so say for example I take this content. Usually we just paste the frame and brace one in there.

Just save.

Save and then view.

Yeah.

So.

So every page will be identical. Will we get, will we get marks against us for that?

Or actually will it be a good thing for SCL?

I think the style is they don't penalize you having a style. The style should be consistent throughout your website.

But the tax should be different.

Yeah.

Content will be different.

Yeah. The content server.

Beautiful.

Yeah. So I think that's all she has to do is paste in here.

So tell me, is that all there is to it? If I was to do that on every one of them.

So, I mean, I think she's doing, she's making this little language.

Well, she used clod or something to do this for her.

But the CSS, the style.

Is pulling these little classes. So she made a style for this class.

You know, tag, which is maybe orange. And this are h1 is this size font.

So when she duplicating these, it's putting the same names that we put in our style sheet.

Yeah.

You.

Ve got.

Yeah, it's all that stays consistent.

Yeah.

Where she gather.

Where's the content coming from that goes on each page?

I have no idea. Is she writing it? I don't know. She's probably just asking AI to write it.

So that's where I think you might need to look at that.

So I don't know if I will even know how to catch a proofread of these things look proper.

Okay so she's using some other program.

To write this content.

But what is the HTML that you just did where does that.

How is it that you just pasted that into.

Whichever one we're connecting it worked?

Yeah. She's, she has some little saved.

Thing in her clod that says.

You know, I'm going to give you a new article called Safeway system scaffolding.

You know, this is the format and giving her and she has an example now of frame and brace.

So she's telling her, use the same format of this one and rewrite the content for aluminum. And then she's coming up with basically an inf file. Where is that? You know, that looks like this.

So her clod code is creating this for her.

Per each one so the one you just updated is likely wrong content.

Yeah, I choose a duplicate. She didn't do it for any of these other ones yet.

Okay.

Or she did, but I think this was the old HTML. This is what she did a week or two ago.

Yeah that's all the old stuff.

So she doesn't even need to put it in here necessarily for me anymore. This was just for me to help her test it.

However, if you want to actually look at these content pages and read it, forget what it looks like.

Just make sure it actually sounds.

Like it's fairly decent quality, you know, summary.

I don't know. That's another process. That's just like proofreading.

It.

I don't know. Maybe if you read a couple and you think they're actually pretty good, maybe we can just trust that it's decent.

But he doesn't know. So she's just telling AI to write in.

Yeah.

Yeah I mean obviously I'll go I'll go through each and every one of them to a certain degree you know again I.

Won't probably won't leave every read every letter and word and sentence in every one of these but if the general content.

Is right.

Again.

Run with that.

Version one.

You know and as we dive in a little deeper.

And starts working for us.

You know maybe we spend more with it I'll bet you.

What'll drive that more than anything is our ranking and our SEO.

And all that other.

GEO and all that other stuff.

You know if we get back.

Some feedback after we've done a couple few posts.

And talk about some real scaffold stuff.

Have all these done and you know even today I'm still.

I'm still adding another filters that's why I'm thinking.

Kind of got the car before the horse but if we.

Don't.

Move forward because we could be missing some stuff and some other ones.

But again that's where hopefully these guys sign up and they go in.

If we make it painless for them to update it.

I think their marketing department would be doing it and just getting it done right quickly.

Should we just have to get kind of some momentum? Like say now Colorado or you're going to do another check of these or something to make sure they're fairly good.

Oh yeah.

Should we try to get a traction with these just even as we do the next state?

Like do we want to send them all email to even see maybe a few of them would have actually respond.

Do you want to wait the whole country is done or do we want to start testing this to see, okay, we do 40, we send an email.

We get.

Three out of 40 to respond to us.

Do we want to start testing even that?

I think we do.

Okay, so now we could bake in like immediately.

Like we.

Not.

So Mosin is going to kind of populate it.

You're going to do that review step or do you even need to do that or do you think in terms of time you won't have to do that over every single one?

Well I don't think it'll stop us from moving forward but yeah I wouldn't feel comfortable not reviewing.

And if I see see that it's you know pretty consistent and pretty accurate.

That they'll just give us the comfort to can you continue moving moving forward?

And whether it's through you know reaching out to these first 39 or you know definitely given.

Most in the okay to move to the next day.

Maybe so say you're now you've done this. You're I guess step is what you're going to kind of click through these and okay and k if you say it's good you're going to mark it as reviewed.

Correct.

Okay.

So then should we just add the next step which is.

Maybe send them an email from Darren saying hi welcome here on scaffold exchange we can make it go through that.

What's it called?

What's it called resend.

I could make another step where it's like email them a welcome email or something.

And we could have it even coming out of your own email.

Well it needs to be coming from scaffold exchange out of the 39 that are on there there might be four or five that might might know me personally.

The rest of them are all going to be new.

A lot of them are rental houses that are local.

Which I just left our batter rental just not but minutes ago.

So yes to answer your question yes I think we need to have that function.

And a quick email that comes from scaffold exchange.

And it probably should be from me so that it is somewhat personalized.

So that we can get past I'll guarantee you I shouldn't say that but I would anticipate having some.

Spam issues initially.

Until until we get a few people.

I had it with my company I don't know about yours but with construction products.

For the first six months my emails are hitting spam.

Every email.

So it was it became a process of not just.

Emailing over the quote that I finished for them but then to follow up with an email or a text right away and said hey I just sent your email.

Oh well I haven't got it well check your spam folder.

Sure enough it's always there.

I don't know if we'll experience that here but I'm anticipating a little bit of that.

So yeah, you know we have to have the function.

And as we finish each state there's no reason why we wouldn't send out an email.

To all of them at least make that initial introduction.

Okay yeah I think it's then even if you get a few responses I feel like that we start getting a little bit of.

You know what's working what's not working.

So I can tie that into something comes out of your email with some sort of template.

I can make a way where we can control the templates in here.

So you can even on this stage or what page or whatever in the list view we can have another button that just oh I actually did make it here but this was for a raw email but I can make templates.

And then.

Yeah I guess and then the temp the first email would say what welcome is kind of scaffold exchange create an account here your listing is live.

Yes, yeah something to that effect I mean obviously explain a little bit about what we do and what it's about and you know it'll be our first chance to without getting too lengthy in in the first one explain what what it what it does for them and you know touch on the highlights of it for sure.

And then you know again it may not be too far fetched.

That again just from a personal touch.

You know what.

I don't know where business essentials is going to go.

But it seems like.

Sabers lost a little bit of interest I don't know what's driving that.

But neither here nor there following up with my quotes there's no reason why we can't follow up with these emails either.

So we sent them an email introduction and whether she does it whether I do it.

You know come up with.

A she was good at it too just a quick little introduction of.

Business and we can you know draft.

A you know pitch that anybody could read essentially.

Yeah okay well I can I think we have this recent I can connect it and have a way that we can send that template out.

Okay that's I think is important because I think we can as you mark them state by state I feel like we should just might as well start pinging them a little bit because I think.

If we get any activity it will give us more even motivation.

I agree.

So let's take a look at the user side because that interface has got to be it's got to be user friendly it's kind of it's got a it's got.

You know convey our message.

When when I'm asking again I'm going back to Northwest he's a good buddy of mine.

And he didn't give it more than five minutes of his time.

Did he give you any reason?

No but I owe him a phone call and and then I'll give him the formal pitch.

But let's again let's let's do the simple things.

In other words you know that even on that page there let's get that title changed and us removed down at the bottom for that homepage thing.

I'm okay with the picture it's not ideal but you know to get us going.

We'll but then let's go to the user side and see what they experience when they go in and try to update their own information.

I want to make sure this I get you told me last week I'm trying to find my paper where I have my notes.

Or maybe go through your the tax changes here because this let me just get this done today.

Guys hero image.

What was the what was the change we wanted to make on this title?

I wrote it here.

I also have it in this folder.

Scaffold exchange web build out.

Database.

Too many copies in there.

426.

So in that header.

We would put request quotes from local scaffold suppliers.

And buy and sell your used scaffold inventory.

A little bit of a.

Long sentence for a title for an H1 title.

Like we said last week.

It says it all in that one sentence what this site does.

And that should be what Google picks up on.

Request quotes.

Local scaffold suppliers.

Okay.

And buy sell your used scaffold equipment.

Buy and sell I think you've got it listed there as well.

It's not too far fetched to think that you know I made that I may buy a lot of equipment.

If I know that I can move it right quickly.

So when I approach these people from used equipment standpoint I'm going to approach just as that I buy and sell used equipment.

Now whether I'm the actual buyer or whether I have buyers.

Irrelevant to them.

Just as long as I can sell their gear for.

You still keep that build higher sell smarter as our tagline wherever you want to see that in here.

That smaller print kind of underneath.

No I kind of want again I love that tagline don't we got it.

But.

So maybe that what the text users gave me request quotes from a local scaffold suppliers and by sell this maybe maybe in this gray.

No I think that needs to be that bigger text build higher sell smarter.

That's where that needs to.

Go.

Okay.

So then build higher sell smarter to some more.

Above it.

Or.

I think it has to go.

I think has to go.

I mean ideally you look go right up there next to our logo.

Stay on every page in kind of that color scheme.

Or maybe to the right side of this picture somewhere.

Okay let me play with it.

Or maybe maybe it's just you have that saying you know the request for quote from local suppliers and buyers and sellers and maybe there's an arrow to the right of that.

That just simply says buy higher or build higher sell smarter.

Use your judgment to build higher self smarter I don't care where you put it but that'll remain our tagline.

Okay okay.

All right so that's kind of the message up top.

So we don't need this little thing.

I don't think so.

Okay and then buttons.

That button right down below it says explore scaffold.

Supplier directory.

I think it just simply needs to say find.

Scaffold suppliers.

Okay.

Then you leave scaffold directory below with the map all that's good.

New scaffold.

Listings that's good.

NIO consulting still.

Wherever you want to take that off for now we don't we can just take it off.

I just had to do that on my construction products is it that easy?

What do you.

Mean?

Because I don't know I turn the page off one of my pages off I had my one of my suppliers.

Go haywire on me.

And one that I just don't care to sell their equipment quite frankly.

And so I went to pull their page down and oh my gosh what.

If.

What a what a task.

Right now we can always put something back later if you don't want to think about this for now.

I mean this just had that placeholder text which I don't know if it if it's not even right maybe it's silly to have it.

No I'll leave it I just promise y'all get you something.

Okay.

So I have a couple things in there.

My as extensive as what you have it now.

But it just makes it.

A little fuller if you ask me.

So I'm going to change those it's easy boom boom boom.

We'll keep the picture for now.

What else on this page do you think is.

Just removed below that one.

Remove what I'll meet the team okay.

Off that page leave it on the contact page or about whatever.

I think that's it.

Okay.

These were just nice old articles I don't know if they made you want.

To we haven't thought about how to populate.

Content this was just fake probably stories or something.

Looks like you pulled these from somewhere.

AI just pulled it apart of my template I told him what I wanted to put some placeholders for news stories I don't even know if these are legitimate stories.

500 plus verified vendors.

I guess we know that one.

Might as well change it to 10,000.

Right.

Should I just take the stuff down for now?

And I liked having some extra stuff on the side to make it look like it has a little more meat to it.

Yeah I don't think I would at this point I would.

Probably.

Nobody will look at.

I would ultimately like.

Yeah because that's going to be mainly for SEO and surprisingly you'd be surprised the you know because the way I can track my construction product sites and the URLs that people are clicking it you'd be surprised how many people go to them blogs it blew me away.

I was like wow.

Why are they spending time there?

Ultimately what I'd like to see done at that bottom page.

Another another box will be.

What we carry over from.

The marketplace we would have that function of other people looking.

For material and so I can kind of see it as being a scrolling bar or something of that nature maybe click through you know people that list.

Products or materials that they're looking to purchase. There you go.

It.

I did put I don't did I showed you this.

We didn't talk about it but I did see it yes.

Okay change this but I just put a way to this sprinkles throughout.

It just shows up.

Where you can see the things for sale but also things wanted.

So this is just some fake entry but you can now in your account request something.

Perfect.

Are you able to attach the pictures here?

Didn't put an attachment we can.

I mean this is this is people looking for something do they want to attach a picture?

May you know a specific type of equipment.

Okay you can add that.

And then I just had basically both things in the same.

Basically marketplace list so the ones that are wanted show up as well did you like that?

I saw that I don't know that I have I mean at first I was like no that's not what I want but after sleeping on it I was like well that's not a bad deal.

Just sprinkled in there what are they are they gate Chronicle.

Organized by date or something?

Nick this is how is this even organized?

All right how do we want it organized?

I don't know I probably say probably newer first.

So here's the two things in the back end there's the people that listed.

These we just took off I guess the ones from your website and then these this was just a fake thing I entered.

Request or looking for something.

Yeah equipment request.

Yeah.

So those two categories showed up I just made them show up in the same thing I was putting them in a separate list but then if I just looked a little separated and just not very clear I don't know if this is something better.

I agree with you that's what struck me as odd is just being mingled with stuff for sale.

I mean we could we could not show it together just to remove the awl and have it like you can go to for sale and you can go if wanted and it flips back and forth.

Only but it's not all in one list.

Like this.

With them like that for right now Nick let's we could we can multiply that.

Okay.

100 way in the future.

All right.

Matter of fact I'm going to create one I'll create one if today if I get time I'll.

Looking for some aluminum frames.

Zoo.

M it all out a way to add a picture to those so same thing when you make an account you'll see it now in your account under equipment request.

Okay.

So that's how you as a user would create it you just get new request.

And let me add a letting me add an attachment I guess for a five picture or something.

Yeah for a quick.

Quick picture and then and we still have an address you know how.

And you know we'll handle it manually to begin with.

But.

Saved vendors.

Starred.

This was where you could flag the ones that you want to keep in your list.

You're probably going to want to change that to well I guess it's fine that'll work I anticipate adding.

Different subject but you know we have to scaffold.

Supplier listing and then we have the vendor listing.

Those are two two separate vendor listing will be.

Companies that.

Don't necessarily sell products.

Product vendors there you go.

I mean this wasn't that this was kind of I put in place because you asked for but I don't think this is really great yet.

This is.

Exactly where a protect will go.

So I set up all four of their locations but now I need to move and I set them up under supplier scaffold suppliers and I just need to move them over to.

Product vendors.

Okay so do we want then.

Well I guess if they're if it's really exactly the same info but they're just kind of separated into either a supplier or a vendor.

We really want to separate them on the back end like this or do we want to just have one more setting on the listing where you can just choose is it a supplier or vendor is exactly if it's exactly the same filter and everything.

Which.

I leave that up to you I know that I'm going to want to look at them separately.

And so however we do that I don't want to be able to input them.

And look at them separately.

This filter maybe is getting too long now but we can make a filter for it's either a supplier or vendor.

I think I wasn't completely sold on this I did split it.

But.

He doesn't he doesn't do he has nothing to do I shouldn't say nothing to do he doesn't sell any kind of scaffolding or access vertical access equipment he sells the supplies.

The netting.

Keep repeating myself.

But he's a compliment to scaffolding and I anticipate us getting a lot more that's where we're going to get people like strong men to sign up and start advertising they're going to want to advertise to the scaffold companies.

People that are listing on here.

Is much.

Their client as anybody else calling.

So there I mean I could see how they would advertise on the site because they want to get it in front of our.

Supplier are they trying to sell to the suppliers?

Oh yeah.

Okay so then.

Is it really just for placement of advertising later or do you you really want to have a location saved because they show up on the map and all that stuff.

Didn't understand that last comment what do you mean saved.

Well like what did you have in mind like here's protect or we put pro to protect in here.

What you want to do with this.

Do you want this to show up on the front end website somehow?

I think they currently do and yes I think when somebody's searching for.

Plastic sheeting or enclosures.

Protect would pop up along with the scaffold companies that sell it.

So then they would just be they kind of fit within the same structure where they have some things in these filters.

They do.

And my concern with that is as you can see the list continues to grow.

Yeah.

And I don't think we're anywhere near done.

So I don't know how the system would work.

In separating the two from a filter's list because I think they still all fall under the same.

Filters.

Then why why do you want to have a distinction between a supplier and a protect.

Like why can't why can't they just live in the side the same database?

They don't have a good answer for that.

Because I think this I mean this isn't really done right I don't think but.

I think that's why I stopped because I wasn't quite clear in my head why is it living separately?

We could have one more toggle that says are they a supplier or are they a vendor but it sounds like the vendor does sell similar things you just may not sell scaffolding.

Because I'll be adding they would be adding.

Where.

Services it would probably be more in the tools and equipment.

Section where we'll add.

You know that list is relatively short that's generic list we haven't spent any time with it.

I guess I don't have a good argument as to why they need to be separated.

It's just you know we're going to find those.

Separately and independently because I you know I wanted to put strong men in there who I buy all the netting from.

My fall protection netting.

And I've already got filters in here for that.

I guess I don't have a good argument Nick I don't know why it made good sense when I requested it.

Maybe I'm going to just try to why don't we just try to use this one thing for everybody and if you really find a reason why it shouldn't because I think it's going to start making it very complicated if we have a whole nother set of companies very similar but there's some small difference.

I don't know if they necessarily have two separate databases.

Well my argument must have been pretty good because you did it.

I think in my head I was thinking they're more.

Advertisers it's like.

Kind of in my furniture examples where this is the stores.

We sell certain lines like LA-Z-Boy or what have you.

Because this site has a big list of suppliers there's a few people that want to sell to the furniture stores that kind of want to advertise to this list.

But they don't show up on the map.

Like my furniture manufacturers would this would be a map of all the stores across the country that might sell certain.

Prods.

Then there's certain manufacturers that want to sell to all these stores.

So they'd like this map and they like our site because it gives them access to all the stores.

But from a consumer's perspective like you're not searching for lazy buoyancy in the manufacturer's location or something.

These guys to show up so they see themselves on the map and that in and of itself is going to entice them to.

Potentially advertise or definitely.

Become a premier.

Click on.

To bring that in or seating over on the left filter.

You see that here plastic sheeting.

Any one of those do.

There you go.

Yeah see in protect shows up yeah you're right we want them we want them there.

All right.

Well I don't have a good argument.

Okay good so I'm ready I'm going to remove this one.

So.

All right.

All right so put yeah put everything here we can always spin it off so I'll do a separate list if we need to for some reason.

But I think that will make it simpler.

Okay.

So then I think you were just making some comments to the homepage I'm going to update that stuff just so we start emailing companies they come to the site and it doesn't look like it's complete mess.

And it's more clear to them what it is.

Yeah.

There any other things that you think we definitely need before you want them coming to the site.

I don't think so like I said I'll do something with the.

Consulting I'll get I'll make that a priority wanted you to look at it from a user's perspective.

Again I want they've got to be.

So you go to.

It's Christ.

Like so like here's 809.

This one is technically in my account so this is access as I would as I requested it or I claimed it.

If I hit edit.

Yeah.

If you could edit now you can.

Right.

Edit stuff.

So you can change all that stuff so we got that fixed.

I guess what I'm struggling with is you know I look at this page I don't know that.

Being a premier or a featured what the advantages are of doing so so can you go into one.

That has not been updated.

That you can edit.

Sure I always say let's go to the map.

Let's pick remember this one upward scaffolding right so I'm going to go here.

I'm going to say claim this business.

Move the claim.

Go to this back end claims here's upward we see Nick wanted it we approved it.

Okay.

So now Nick's approve or upward scaffolding.

I go back to my.

Businesses here's upward up or upward scaffold.

So this is kind of what an empty one looks like.

So that says Premiere right there that little purple box to the right.

Yeah we can make I mean I can't grade out the ones.

See featured available in Premiere.

I mean I don't know this doesn't have you tell me if you don't like it this was just kind of a keeping placeholders for the stuff that wasn't there.

Well I'm almost taken I thought about this the other day.

There almost needs to be.

So if you click add edit it kind of it re-emphasizes.

So you can actually still upload this.

But.

It's telling you let's actually see if this even works.

Okay.

However is it showing up.

Because it shows up on their account.

So now you need to go to the web.

While I'm on the website.

See if we go to the back end.

Upward.

You got to change colorado to.

Okay.

Upward it's been verified.

Here's the little thing I entered.

A little bit.

Of.

If I'm not logged in let's see.

Yeah this shouldn't show up if it's not if it's not.

Premier.

No but.

This is where you and I talked last week.

You know same with requesting a quote even though they haven't paid that button's not lit up.

So maybe it's kind of a mix of what's going on it's letting you do the pictures is letting you edit the content.

Looks like it is.

But yeah it's not giving you the full Premiere or featured accesses.

E.

Which you know like we talked last week you know it's probably a good idea for the first three to six months.

To allow them to do that.

Thinking.

Because right now if I'm going to ask somebody to spend time like Tom at Northwest.

I think he needs to be able to do.

All of those functions.

Well you can do them.

But then do we want to just have them show up as well?

You can go down this list so you can mark things.

You can.

Add.

Contact.

You see it's kind of working here.

Profile.

Let's save this stuff contact will not appear it's not Premiere.

These won't appear for them Premiere so you save it those are not showing up the only one that actually is showing up by mistake is this.

The spotlight so it let's imagine everything do we want it to then display no matter what he enters for now or do you want.

Tell me how is how is that done Premier and feature once they start paying how is that turned on?

On the back end.

Where's the admin?

See.

I mean ultimately that probably needs to be tied to a payment once we get to that stage but right now we can just turn them on.

And now.

If we go back it's a featured listing.

Good.

And then featured also means here.

So.

What I checked for this guy.

Say ADA.

So he's now featured as well.

Okay good.

Okay so we can trim those on and off one by one.

Yeah so we can we can turn them on it's not really automated with the payment but I don't know if we're to that step yet.

Yeah next.

But he could go in he could claim his thing and then he gets selected.

So as soon as he claims it and we approve it it verifies it.

And then these other things are something we do on the back end.

The only thing that actually was not kind of working to my specs which we can change is that if he edits the profile he's only verified and he's not Premiere featured.

He's able to go down this whole list check anything he wants.

And then.

When he saves it.

Because well now he is a.

He is a premiere so it is showing but if he was not.

So it should.

So right now it's showing everything.

Go back and turn off his.

Featured status.

Now he's not featured at all.

Does disappear.

Got you and he disappeared from the list too go back to the website.

Go back to whoops yeah he's gone.

He's gone all together.

Well he's here he's here as a normal.

Oh there he is yeah right okay cool.

But he's.

So it kind of works this this one is the one part that is not actually turning off the spotlight.

And if not turning can you click on request for quote over there on the.

Card.

No.

Well he's not premier anymore.

Im on it didn't turn it didn't well it didn't go orange anyhow.

Let's see.

He's back here request a quote is here.

Right.

Click here requested quote is here.

Got you.

This is not here request a clutch should show up here.

Right.

Did we want request a quote tied to featured or prerequisited we want to have that a whole separate.

Is definitely going to be a featured.

As we have it listed now but like we talked I think for the next six months it'll be something that.

We're just going to leave tour down for everybody.

Okay even if they just.

Even not verified.

Even know they need to be verified I I say anybody otherwise it's a yellow page directory if anybody wants to come in here.

Look.

Okay so they have to at least claim it and we have to approve it.

Right.

And then I guess that means we have some sort of email address for them I guess.

Okay so.

And that's at the end of the day that's that's really the game is capturing all those contacts and email addresses and you know coming up with a solid database.

I even had to tell.

Musson yesterday I said man I don't care if it's an info at or sales at.

Or whatever I says you capture an email address for every one of those sites.

Colorado.

That'll be our initial contact like you said recent so now just again looking at this page this is from the user he's in his account.

I was going to say that.

I don't know if we need to explain it because when you scroll down it.

The first thing you know what am I going to pay 65 for in the first place?

And then what do I get for 199 a month or whatever we set.

I mean in my mind it's definitely worth it.

It's just.

I mean they need to be able to.

Scroll up a little bit somewhere you had.

Documents and brochures.

Or.

Probably need to call that something else.

Where where is it?

Out here.

Right there it is.

Product brochures and details there you go.

Why did that disappear?

Yeah that shouldn't disappear.

Okay.

You see what I'm getting at? I'm just I don't see nothing on the page pops out at me.

I mean it's pretty self-explanatory.

You need to click on the boxes down below but I think there probably needs to be some instructions to that.

Maybe at the header of each one of those equipment times select equipment.

You offer.

And then it just needs to be clear what is.

Verified.

And when you become premier.

I mean there needs to be some stars that jump out.

And says you know premiere if you pay today you can you can populate this too.

And if you become featured well then you can you know you get this as well.

And again I'm not volunteering any of what those structures are but I do have them all written down here.

Something needs to be a little more there's just there's a lot here.

Well that filters just take up a lot of.

Page space.

And it you know.

And I would probably put the filters at the bottom make them scroll through all the premier and featured stuff before they get to the filters.

So put them in a different order than they will be.

I think I was trying to keep them kind of in the place they were going to show up.

Got you.

But.

I mean I agree and this is all you may not even scroll past all this.

Yeah I don't I don't I don't think it would.

Matter on this page on their account side.

How it's structured I like I like the way you have a structured elsewhere.

I mean maybe we get separated them when you hit edit.

Maybe there is something that immediately calls out toggle to the standard info.

And the premier info.

So it separates them completely.

On the edit screen.

That's not okay there you go that's not a bad idea.

Actually that's probably the ticket brother.

That way they come in here to get verified.

And they only see this stuff that's verified.

You click on Premiere now you're looking at stuff you have to pay for.

Yeah.

That's it.

Okay.

See that's why you're paid the big buck.

S.

Not then all right so I think that.

Okay.

Let me take another little revisions at this stuff and the requested quote I guess.

To light up.

Needs to light up.

What I was thinking with a requested quote is maybe just.

Call it out as a completely separate item.

Because we may even you know initially turn it on for every verified.

But later.

Even charge potentially separately for that feature.

Like there might be companies that don't even want the other stuff but they just want to be able to get some leads.

Not a bad idea I think the more we build into it on the front end it's only what we've always said about business you know whatever you put into it on the front end.

We'll hopefully save you time.

And definitely save you time down the road.

Yeah.

Okay I think I'll just pull out that toggle separate.

So we get that we get that.

Side of.

It working pretty well I'll have no problem in reaching out to people I just wanted to be I want them to be comfortable I want to needs to be not I want it needs to be.

Comfortable for them go in and something they can do in 10 minutes.

Unless they take a real interest in it.

And they start searching for a good picture a good spotlight and you know that would be nice to know if a company goes in and spends five minutes updating their data that's one thing you don't select in their filters.

And updating their contact but if somebody spends the time.

To you know.

Put together a hero banner find a good.

Spotlight picture you know put some decent content to it.

You know who your serious players are at that point.

Yeah.

Okay well let me update this stuff so then we can we can get to that stage where we can email them and you feel good about it.

Okay.

All right well that's a good call just sticking with Colorado that keeps it structured and we know what we're talking about and we can focus on those get them done.

But I don't think.

No go ahead.

Oh it was just the other the business central stuff you that's hit a wall or something.

No again if Sabra doesn't take a.

You know a real strong interest in it which I don't know why.

But past week and a half has been.

He hasn't been herself I don't know what's going on.

If she doesn't help drive it.

And just simply an employee catching a check.

And it's yeah that's not gonna it's not gonna go like I thought it would.

Okay.

Not doing the copy nothing happened with any of those leads.

She doesn't like I said I said I haven't talked to her since last.

Wednesday.

We've shared a couple tags.

Teams teams tax whatnot.

But no during the holiday weekend.

Like I said she flew out well she did tell me that one was talked after that she flew out to California.

And then last minute on.

Memorial Day she flew to Tennessee.

And then didn't fly back until that Wednesday.

Following Wednesday.

And then you know during the whole time she she wasn't online she wasn't doing anything she would jump online and do her follow-up you know four five ten of them or whatever.

So no no I'm sensing something's going on I don't know.

What.

I'm pressing her you know still want to get everything going as we as we had already planned.

I don't I don't see that stopping it's just going to be at her speed unfortunately.

Okay.

All right.

Okay well I got my I got my list list at home work.

All right.

And I promise I'll get to that Consulting stuff.

You know working with.

Most and he and I we have and what was with saber too we have a lot of dialogue throughout.

The throughout the morning.

Matter of fact he lets me good morning Darren I'm starting in 14 minutes.

Oh it's pretty specific.

14 not 13 not 15 but 14.

Okay.

Is this is the only job or is he doing something else?

No he's kind of treating it like his only job.

But he did tell me when I was negotiating with him because he wanted 10 bucks an hour to begin with called me a cheapskate I'll do what you want.

Negotiating through it then we met on the phone and he shared with me that he picked up.

Two two jobs on upworks.

I don't know what they are say picked up because he went a couple months without anything.

So when I reached out to him he was really excited and it was like in the very next day must be a good week because I picked up two more jobs.

But I also noticed.

In sharing it with our cameras on.

He's not by himself I seen another dude in the background on the laptop too.

We're doing what that means.

And I didn't ask.

You work out of his home?

That's what he's that's what he's indicated.

You know.

So I don't know maybe he was a friend but we'll we'll get through that again I've got a I mean I've really bust his balls two years ago.

Actually probably about a year ago.

When he was writing blogs and he come clean and let me know but shared some dialogue and then he wrote me and I feel bad about this he wrote me and says Darren I'm dying over here I just need some kind of work and that's where I got the five dollars I can hire Filipinos for three and four dollars an hour so I figured I said well I pay you know five bucks an hour I said but I'm more worried about.

People hacking into our system and I says you're a Pakistan I says man.

Nothing against you.

But you guys are notorious for doing bad stuff I said don't take it personal it's not directed at you.

And I left it at that well he replied back with.

I didn't have nothing of yours and I would never do that and I was like and I said then I replied I said dude please slow down I told you I wasn't accusing you I'm sorry for the way I presented it but please slow down and read my read my email a little closer and I don't know if you noticed that yesterday that's my big beef with him right now is he's just move move move move and it doesn't really think through the whole process of anything.

So I said read my email again I said and then come back with some answers that make good sense.

And his next email didn't come until the next day and it was

Professional.

It was like, okay, Darren, I now get what you're, you're saying.

I answered you completely incorrectly. And here's my answers to it today.

And it was good. That's, that's when I decided to hire.

Okay.

Yeah, I, I saw trustee. I just don't trust the networks and the systems that we're on. And hence why.

I wanted you to see what he was doing yesterday to see if there's anything that struck you as odd.

No it didn't cut yeah I mean he's automating it but I don't know.

That speeds him up it's probably cost of more cost effective for us anyway.

All right. Sounds like a plan.

Okay I will do my myself an update you on the these changes.

All right.

Thanks.

Nick.

Okay all right mate.

Okay.

I'll get a link and then I'll.